Revelation 12

In order to understand Revelation chapter 12, one must first read Revelation chapter 1, the first chapter makes it very clear that everything in Revelation was to happen quickly

Everything in Revelation happened after Yeshua the Messiah was resurrected, that means that Revelation 12 is not about before the creation of man, the woman in Revelation 12 is not Mary, the child is not the Messiah & the dragon also known as the devil is not a fallen angel

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Yeshua the Messiah, which God gave to him, to show unto his servants things which must quickly come to pass



10 thoughts on “Revelation 12

    • Great question, no, I would not view the child as the Church, the reason why I do not view the child as the church is because the child is male (Rev 12:5)

      The church of Yeshua the Messiah is female, therefore I would say that the woman is the church & the male child came out of the church, some say the child is Constantine

      The dragon in Rev 12:3 is Rome & whomever the child is in Rev 12:5 is the Godly ruler that came out of the church that God gave the power to cast out the ungodly rulers of the Roman Empire


    • I used to believe that the term “end of days” or “end times” was about our time period, or about future events, but Col 1:23 makes it very clear that the gospel was preached to every creature under heaven, which shows that the Messiah’s command in Mark 16:15 was fulfilled & that means that what the Messiah said in Matt 24 has already happened.


      • It is also written that the generation that sees the blossoming of the fig tree (Israel) will see the coming of the Lord. That blossoming was in 1948 with the birth of Israel. Is it not possible that the gospel (the good news of His Coming began and was given to all mankind at that time, but now the return is also coming. 2 Pet 3 speaks of the end coming. Can I ask what brought you to the conclusion that the gospel has been preached to all? I’m not talking about particular nations, but time is not a concept God necessarily looks at the way we do. He is longsuffering and waits for the last one, right? sorry, not replying fast but my computer keeps spooling and can’t see all you write.


      • Romans 9:6-8 says that not everyone that is Israel, are Israel, therefore Israel were a people long before 1948, Israel are the people that believe Yeshua is the Messiah that no longer practice sin

        It’s ok if you don’t respond quickly, computers can be quite annoying, just comment back when you can & when I see it, I will respond

        I have a post about why the gospel was preached, I will copy & paste it here, that should answer your question about why I believe the gospel has already been preached to every creature under heaven & why I believe that everything in the New Testament has already happened


  1. The gospel had already been preached to every creature under heaven by the time that Col 1:23 had been written, that means that everything in the New Testament has already happened

    Matt 24:14 & this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole inhabited earth & then the end shall come

    Mark 16:15 Go into all the world & preach the gospel to every creature

    Col 1:23 be not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you have heard & which was preached to every creature under heaven

    The whole purpose of preaching the gospel was so that God’s chosen people would be saved from the coming destruction that was going to happen to Jerusalem

    The end of the age in Matt 24:3, is the end of the Mosaic age, that age ended when the temple was destroyed, the gospel had to be preached before the end of the age happened, the temple was destroyed in AD70

    The letters in the New Testament were written to teach the church the truth about Yeshua the Messiah, to warn the church about the Lord’s coming judgment upon Jerusalem & to teach the church about what it means to be led by the Spirit

    Everything in the New Testament has already happened, the gospel was preached to every creature under heaven (Col 1:23), Jerusalem was destroyed in AD70 & those who have been predestined by God to be born of the Spirit are born of the Spirit (Eph 1:11), those who believe Yeshua is the Messiah that don’t practice sin are born of the Spirit A.K.A. born of God

    Eph 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance being predestined according to God’s purpose who works all things after the counsel of His own will

    1 John 3:9 No one born of God practices sin
    1 John 5:1 Whosoever believes Yeshua is the Messiah is born of God


  2. I believe that the terms “the coming of the Lord” and “the day of the Lord” in the New Testament are referring to the Lord’s judgment upon Jerusalem, that judgment happened in AD70.

    Also I believe that since the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Yeshua the Messiah, that the second coming of the Messiah has already happened, the Messiah is reigning in all who are born from above by the Holy Spirit that dwells in God’s chosen vessel, in John 3 Yeshua the Messiah said no one can see or enter the kingdom of God without being born from above, therefore the kingdom of God is on the inside of all who are born from above


  3. The letter “J”didn’t exist during the time of the Apostles, therefore they never said Jesus is the name of God’s Son, they never said you have to say a prayer to be born of the Spirit (Jn 3:8) & they never said you choose the Messiah by freewill (Jn 1:12-13 & Jn 6:65), that means that the gospel that is preached in the world today isn’t the same gospel that the Apostles preached

    Gal 1:8 though we, or an angel from heaven preach any other gospel to you than that which we preached to you, let him be accursed


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